tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post1658287133615390047..comments2024-03-26T13:00:25.188-07:00Comments on The Friedman Archives Blog: The Value of ImmediacyGary L. Friedmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12816533617814819591noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-88133706449062602442018-01-23T03:20:39.122-08:002018-01-23T03:20:39.122-08:00Here, here, well said. My mom has a photo taken wi...Here, here, well said. My mom has a photo taken with a Polaroid Land Camera in 1965 of me and some friends and classmates after 8th grade graduation. I wish I had it to post but she won't give it up not even for me to scan. Even though it's badly exposed and horribly posed everytime I see it I get great joy and so does my mom. I am so glad my mom took her money she saved for over a year to buy that camera. BTW, she has given me the camera and it still works. I had to jump through hoops to get a battery though.GEGJrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17521332233522505394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-62046787284230263982018-01-22T20:01:09.357-08:002018-01-22T20:01:09.357-08:00Michael, you're hitting a nerve with me. Havi...Michael, you're hitting a nerve with me. Having grown up documenting things that would never happen again (children's choir adventures, weddings, etc.), there was a time when I would actually be stressing out (i.e., not enjoying it at all) if I *wasn't* documenting it. And my mission has paid off countless times, when I got valuable photos at weddings that the paid photographers just missed. <br /><br /><br />Having said that, it took me literally years before I could let go and just enjoy a sunset. You would think that with so many crappy iphone shots that nobody sees a problem with I should be able to just shrug my shoulders and go dance a little more. :-)Gary L. Friedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12816533617814819591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-33944245263769329242018-01-22T11:24:12.149-08:002018-01-22T11:24:12.149-08:00I have a different slant on this, Gary. To what e...I have a different slant on this, Gary. To what extent do you think having the camera affected your enjoyment of the wedding? As a non-professional, I sometimes feel a conflict between enjoying a scene/monument/party and taking the best pictures.<br />And sadly I live way too far from anywhere you are giving your courses this year.Michael Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08748487147665227267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-58162703596426107252018-01-21T17:18:28.528-08:002018-01-21T17:18:28.528-08:00Gary, that's what I was saying, too.Gary, that's what I was saying, too.GEGJrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17521332233522505394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-62993014402908446092018-01-21T17:13:00.650-08:002018-01-21T17:13:00.650-08:00Hi Gary, I wholeheartedly agree with your point of...Hi Gary, I wholeheartedly agree with your point of the importance of immediacy. Unfortunately, I think Don missed the point because he focused on the social media aspect of your anecdote. Polaroid did in fact understand that people would indeed embrace catching the moment over missing the moment because a "professional" photographer with his or her "professional equipment" wasn't on the scene. I would venture to bet that Don's friends would appreciate having any visual remembrance of their special day than non at all.GEGJrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17521332233522505394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-2085434336135426562018-01-20T15:54:18.056-08:002018-01-20T15:54:18.056-08:00We tolerate some bad images in the service of inst...We tolerate some bad images in the service of instant feedback. Some of us prefer Art and Beauty over fast-photos. Yes, I have a super-phone, and I send "snaps" as memories. But, the thoughtful image gets turned into hard-copy and put up on walls. The same comments apply to Video. Smartphone wiggly vs. Stabilized/tripod. Larry Wittnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-22634548160355646782018-01-20T05:47:12.238-08:002018-01-20T05:47:12.238-08:00In my experience, the bride and groom place equal ...In my experience, the bride and groom place equal value to the smartphone snapshots vs. the professional photos. See my earlier blog post and scroll down to "Wedding Horror Stories" at http://friedmanarchives.blogspot.com/2011/03/in-this-issue-shooting-for-yoga-sony.html Gary L. Friedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12816533617814819591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-14121385376662532412018-01-20T05:43:52.409-08:002018-01-20T05:43:52.409-08:00Join the club! :-)
Join the club! :-)<br />Gary L. Friedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12816533617814819591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-86959462677921570062018-01-19T07:08:25.976-08:002018-01-19T07:08:25.976-08:00I was married in 1990. We had a professional photo...I was married in 1990. We had a professional photographer at our wedding who took some great posed photos. <br />My wife's father was a press photographer. He reeled off a few rolls of film shooting candid "snaps" during the day. Of course those "snaps" were pretty good quality.<br /><br />They would have made great "immediate" photos for facebook. But 28 years on, we still treasure the photos he took.<br /><br />Yes you need a good photo. But for a lasting memory, you also want quality.Tony Reevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-82039072695391213992018-01-18T20:08:14.904-08:002018-01-18T20:08:14.904-08:00I've always found the process of sending photo...I've always found the process of sending photos to a smartphone tedious which is why I'm a great fan of the "Sync to Smartphone" app. While I'm not a heavy user of social media there's been a few occasions when during a quiet moment I've simply got my phone out and posted a photo. (This assumes that I turn my camera off occasionally to save a bit of battery.) The fact that the A9 & A7III aren't supporting apps (yet?) is a real concern. Ken M, Melbournenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-63403490585493886232018-01-18T13:38:15.751-08:002018-01-18T13:38:15.751-08:00I take photos to keep and immediacy has no value t...I take photos to keep and immediacy has no value to me. As such my iPhone is pretty useless for real photography but if I'm at a store and want to send my wife a photo of a product she's interested in that's where it comes in handy.tbcasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11849649556712233475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-17560303273857568832018-01-18T10:32:44.934-08:002018-01-18T10:32:44.934-08:00I could have been at this wedding. I'm typical...I could have been at this wedding. I'm typically one of the guys holding the chair although I leave it to the younger people now.Stephen Levinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06148792203405631136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-90980177491742919202018-01-18T07:07:43.616-08:002018-01-18T07:07:43.616-08:00in picture view just hit the AM/MF button. Us eht ...in picture view just hit the AM/MF button. Us eht econtroller to move around the photoHaggisbasherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10615207020076887957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-68391837767517346352018-01-18T01:28:58.824-08:002018-01-18T01:28:58.824-08:00Hi Gary,
I took your class in San Francisco more t...Hi Gary,<br />I took your class in San Francisco more than a few years ago. Very much enjoyed it. My photography hobby has stalled a bit but I have always enjoyed the art of taking pictures. Back then (2013?) I purchased a Sony A77 for bird photography among other things. After trying out an expensive and large Sony telephoto lens I switched makers and purchased a Nikon Coolpix P900 because of the incredible zoom lens. turns out it is not too sharp, but still gets me some bird photos for identification. <br /><br />But that's not why I am writing. I have dusted off my old A77 and have purchased a Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 wide angle lens to try and get some night sky Milky Way photos. In looking over your book on the A77 I do not see how to zoom in on a picture I am viewing in the display. Do you know where I can find that link?<br /><br />I love your Archives and Blog. Keep up the good work.<br /><br />Jeff Miner<br />South Lake Tahoe, CAAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07058834314642006432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-42207182287362740522018-01-17T17:47:22.542-08:002018-01-17T17:47:22.542-08:00The advantage of the electronic viewfinder! Was w...The advantage of the electronic viewfinder! Was watching the professional at my nephew's wedding - take a photo, chimp, enlarge - meanwhile missing so many facial expressions, moments! Everything "staged".Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14464969602765672259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-22846187788712694042018-01-17T14:51:08.060-08:002018-01-17T14:51:08.060-08:00Totally agree with Gary. My wife will take a photo...Totally agree with Gary. My wife will take a photo or two, then switch the camera to display mode and assess them. Meanwhile, I've taken several more photos and 90% of the time I get the better shots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-30705018020210088892018-01-17T13:47:52.634-08:002018-01-17T13:47:52.634-08:00Good advice, but it goes against my Kenny Rogers p...Good advice, but it goes against my Kenny Rogers philosophy of "You don't count your cards when you're sittin' a the table... there'll be time enough for countin', boy, when the dealing's done". <br /><br />I've learned that if you're looking at your photos then you may be missing another opportunity. I got what I got; so look for what's next. (That's why I don't do "chimping" either in most circumstances.) What you suggest requires that I break a strong and well-justified habit!Gary L. Friedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12816533617814819591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-59309542740346215072018-01-17T13:46:06.467-08:002018-01-17T13:46:06.467-08:00Very level-headed assessment, Don! Very level-headed assessment, Don! Gary L. Friedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12816533617814819591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-82673883660020856882018-01-17T11:54:50.700-08:002018-01-17T11:54:50.700-08:00Maybe you should just get in the habit of sending ...Maybe you should just get in the habit of sending a few shots to your phone right after taking them for resending to social media. They may not be your best shots, but by now your composition skills, light sense, & anticipation of the moment are so instinctive & keen, that your spontaneous camera shots will still beat the pants off other's phone shots. You can still send the edited masterpieces later. I just love my camera's wi fi feature & use it a lot to upload & resend. I used it at my husband's athletic reunion, sending photos to my phone, then texting them to a few who retexted them to others. The photos when viral right at the reunion :)Stepperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18245565573746202831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-25892649176893861032018-01-17T09:47:29.277-08:002018-01-17T09:47:29.277-08:00I've moved away from using my phone for pictur...I've moved away from using my phone for pictures. It made made me lazy in my efforts to documents our family life. Before the smartphone I would download my pictures, fix a few, toss a few out and always back them up on my EHD and Smugmug by year then month then event. When I have time I go back and make 10x10 albums in Shutterfly and wait for their discounts and order two books for my daughters. They love them.<br /><br />With the smartphone I don't always move them to the folders to be used in albums and I only get my kids' pictures when I think to use airdrop. I've lost the opportunity to document some fun times because I failed to bring my camera. This year I take one of my cameras wherever I go. My goal is to get back on track making albums.Elainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08355910897189682445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-37012450891881624072018-01-17T06:05:28.017-08:002018-01-17T06:05:28.017-08:00Hi Gary. I find the ‘value of immediacy’ idea a li...Hi Gary. I find the ‘value of immediacy’ idea a little depressing to be honest. Not because it doesn’t have value of course, but because I really have no interest in making poor quality images to post on Social media right away. However I do see the attraction of being ‘early to the party’ when it comes to posting and have experienced that rush myself. I guess the downside comes when you become a bit too fixated on being first, but I think that’s a criticism more of social media in general, than a criticism of photography specifically. <br /><br />I shot some of the reception and after party for my closest friend’s wedding last summer, whilst the professional was busy in other rooms. It took me a few days to edit and post the images on Google photos for the couple too see and distribute to guests. I’m glad I took the time for that, as they loved the album and I had a lot of good feedback in the weeks afterwards. I’m still proud of that album and the fact that my friends will be able to look back on it long into the future I hope. <br /><br />I guess there is a balance to be found somewhere and it probably depends on the style of the photographer. I can’t deny that with WiFi and Bluetooth now common in a lot of mirrorless cameras, we are all in a really good position to make the best of that balance!<br /><br />Thanks for your informative blog and great A7r2 guide, which has been a godsend in getting my head round that camera!!<br /><br />Al the best,<br />DonDonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01921810649863542771noreply@blogger.com