tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post5948987254753704785..comments2024-03-26T13:00:25.188-07:00Comments on The Friedman Archives Blog: #NaturePornGary L. Friedmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12816533617814819591noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-7210757521966294252018-09-13T20:07:48.690-07:002018-09-13T20:07:48.690-07:00No problem have fun.No problem have fun.GEGJrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17521332233522505394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-61416265993518288342018-09-13T20:01:35.792-07:002018-09-13T20:01:35.792-07:00The other side is shouldn't the sign be left b...The other side is shouldn't the sign be left because it IS there, not removed because it ISN'T there. If the photographer wanted the scene without the he or she should have moved to eliminate it. If that was impossible then it meant the sign is part of the scene and to present the photo without it is to represent the true scene. If a person wants to invent a pristine scene and call it art then learn to paint. In my opinion it's like a movie that bills as depicting true events yet the credits state certain artistic liberties were taken to "enhance" dramatic effect.GEGJrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17521332233522505394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-90203047039205844792018-09-13T19:49:15.101-07:002018-09-13T19:49:15.101-07:00Just came back to this blog post after reading som...Just came back to this blog post after reading some newer stuff. Read your post and have to say I totally agree.GEGJrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17521332233522505394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-50031340460580184912018-03-27T13:38:47.096-07:002018-03-27T13:38:47.096-07:00I do astrophotography and to get teh images a lot ...I do astrophotography and to get teh images a lot of photpshopping is done, levels, curves because otherwise the image would take days to get an exposure.<br />But I get annoyed with PSd images when they are used in advertising, particularly travel brochures. Sunsets that don't ever happen, expansive colourful views that just don't exist. I think there has to be a differentiation between 'Photos' and 'images' depending on their purpose, art or reality. Or often in the case of Astroimaging, scientific. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-75635242863738727402018-03-22T09:13:55.229-07:002018-03-22T09:13:55.229-07:00That's very true. Even DRO doesn't give qu...That's very true. Even DRO doesn't give quite the same log response that the eye does. But I'd go further. Every time you choose an exposure or a focal length or a viewpoint you are *creating* an image which someone else may not see. Photography is not merely recording nature. <br />I think the quesiton is whether we're trying to make the image look like what we saw or perceived, or whether w're not. I suspect that increasingly we're not.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10722093093079851908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-31406327264192321482018-03-17T14:33:28.751-07:002018-03-17T14:33:28.751-07:00I find that just accepting the JPEG image (which d...I find that just accepting the JPEG image (which does not actually reflect what I saw in the highlights or shadows) boars me dreadfully. It documents the fact that I was there--who cares. I want to capture the emotion of the scene. That means shooting RAW and post processing. But I am not interested in replacing a sky, moving objects around, or adding anything that wasn't there.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00674169169047592204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-82018549019813717812018-03-17T14:33:27.524-07:002018-03-17T14:33:27.524-07:00I find that just accepting the JPEG image (which d...I find that just accepting the JPEG image (which does not actually reflect what I saw in the highlights or shadows) boars me dreadfully. It documents the fact that I was there--who cares. I want to capture the emotion of the scene. That means shooting RAW and post processing. But I am not interested in replacing a sky, moving objects around, or adding anything that wasn't there.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00674169169047592204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-88047998231575694142018-03-15T13:20:50.398-07:002018-03-15T13:20:50.398-07:00Good question. A quick google search of "pho...Good question. A quick google search of "photojournalism ethics in the digital age" yields no shortage of websites which discusses this. These are mostly articles in high-falutin' publications. Somewhere on Page 2 you'll see a reference to Steve McCurry and his "photo editing scandal". :-)<br />Gary L. Friedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12816533617814819591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-45952628730112306642018-03-15T01:30:00.352-07:002018-03-15T01:30:00.352-07:00Hi Gary, is there a website about this topic in th...Hi Gary, is there a website about this topic in the journalism community?wushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07067564694743125472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-15365963612609452122018-03-14T09:03:02.552-07:002018-03-14T09:03:02.552-07:00Hello People, Ansel Adams photographs were heavil...Hello People, Ansel Adams photographs were heavily manipulated in the dark room. Even today some people question whether photography is art.Intrepidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156132218473074193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-21061209182260364572018-03-14T08:05:42.094-07:002018-03-14T08:05:42.094-07:00It's happened already in the journalism commun...It's happened already in the journalism community.Gary L. Friedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12816533617814819591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-87954447687516765032018-03-14T05:15:36.158-07:002018-03-14T05:15:36.158-07:00I think it is time to start a society of true life...I think it is time to start a society of true life photographers that will adhere to a clear set of standards on how far one can go before your image is considered a cooked image. How one can go about getting this started is the question of the day. There has to be some standard set!Picmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00897284956350280608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-17493134506910973092018-03-13T12:04:57.604-07:002018-03-13T12:04:57.604-07:00As an experiment: try to sell them both, wait for ...As an experiment: try to sell them both, wait for 10 years then calculate which one brought in the most revenue :) That way, you'll find out if overprocessed images are just a fad or here to stay.Patrick Mayerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10378586109376768886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-66011889857742351292018-03-12T21:51:49.251-07:002018-03-12T21:51:49.251-07:00I find many photos nowdays just way overdone. I do...I find many photos nowdays just way overdone. I don't want to see paintings which alot of them look like when done after photoshop. Sorry, i still want that natural look out of camera with little photoshop done. It just looks too fake when overdone like a painting.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09174483239465231285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-64915470984978540962018-03-12T18:07:09.983-07:002018-03-12T18:07:09.983-07:00And what is cropping if not fixing the composition...And what is cropping if not fixing the composition???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-17267534249433677392018-03-12T18:02:21.617-07:002018-03-12T18:02:21.617-07:00Well said, I agree. As an Engineer, I could certa...Well said, I agree. As an Engineer, I could certainly still crack the books and do complex calculations by hand, but why would I with the internet available? I suspect many of the purists are those that do not want to learn how to use the post processing tools, so they deride those who do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-2251664840475293482018-03-12T16:36:08.625-07:002018-03-12T16:36:08.625-07:00I really don't want to enter in to this 'o...I really don't want to enter in to this 'old chestnut' once again. Everyone has different taste, different objectives, and different eyes. We won't all agree. For me, the fun begins once I get an image in to the computer. Call it what you will; I call it fun....and I love it.<br />Gramma Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17689826495498700613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-63097295579974762542018-03-12T16:28:23.661-07:002018-03-12T16:28:23.661-07:00regarding nature photography and how I migrated fr...regarding nature photography and how I migrated from film to digital is straight forward because of what nature presents when I a out in it. If I can can hang the image in my home and be proud of the content and presentation, I am at peace. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-39574406752775140412018-03-12T15:01:59.755-07:002018-03-12T15:01:59.755-07:00Not sure why we would ask Van Gogh to comment on T...Not sure why we would ask Van Gogh to comment on The Scream. It was painted three years after his death by Edvard Munch.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05826027543462034012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-56122995517780643232018-03-12T13:48:51.148-07:002018-03-12T13:48:51.148-07:00And the one thing we are all forgetting.....
Compo...And the one thing we are all forgetting.....<br />Composition.<br />Any amount of twidling with sliders does not make for a good composition, and thats what separates the photograher from the snapper Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12910757647192105017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-40535097188790430852018-03-12T12:34:01.024-07:002018-03-12T12:34:01.024-07:00Sure, that’s true, but as I mentioned, when a man ...Sure, that’s true, but as I mentioned, when a man posts to a public forum and photograph and says, this is a picture of last night’s sunset, is really if he’s bumped up the reds/saturation to give the photo a more vibrant look? His photographs look great, but they are not of the sunsets as naturally seen. Someone not knowing anything about Ohio and its sunsets would wrongly conclude that we have awesome sunsets every day. As one who has lived in Ohio, I can assure you we don’t.��<br /><br />I’m no purist. I shoot a lot of high school basketball games. Often, the venues are dreadful, requiring post-processing work. In these instances, the in-camera processing got it wrong, and all I’m doing is manipulating the photos to return them to what I actually saw (or think I saw anyway) ��<br /><br />I rarely take issue what how photographers process their work. I’m of the opinion that photography is art, but when we are presenting our art as a faithful, accurate representation of something, then we should be careful not to misrepresent.<br /><br />Just my two cents. ��Bruce Gerencserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17120905880165625633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-31543051071253507142018-03-12T11:54:07.426-07:002018-03-12T11:54:07.426-07:00OMG, I can not believe there is really anything to...OMG, I can not believe there is really anything to talk about here...the argument is way way overdone. What one does with a camera or a paintbrush is whatever one wants to do with ones camera or paintbrush. Period.YEITERhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04368245159349810206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-7584888712824618032018-03-12T11:53:37.370-07:002018-03-12T11:53:37.370-07:00I've been thinking about this great subject si...I've been thinking about this great subject since reading Gary's blog yesterday. My conclusion aligns with others here. We are in the era of digital imagery where artists create images, not unlike what Warhol did with Marilyn Monroe; taking a digital image and creating art. This is not photography as we may believe it to be but digital art none the less. While I continue to believe that images that tell a compelling story or stir emotions without excessive manipulation reveal the true skills of the photographer, digital art is here to stay and we can assume some tweaking is going into any digital image we see.kbatshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06757222697573803016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-87910099314651877492018-03-12T11:15:04.669-07:002018-03-12T11:15:04.669-07:00Mixed feelings on this topic. Compared to art flow...Mixed feelings on this topic. Compared to art flowing from the creative mind through a brush onto a canvas photography, which initially struggled to be accepted as "art" is now experiencing a revolution in technology for taking images previously unimagined, but especially enhancing those images in digital darkrooms, far beyond what was available to Ansel. If I'm essentially buying "canned" shots and effects as in Landscape Professional, assembling or fabricating final images from multiple sources, then it really isn't my "capture." However, we need to consider whether the impressionism of Van Gogh was "real" or made up...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15626765348468126937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7913915168052873347.post-27823915188051050562018-03-12T09:40:41.710-07:002018-03-12T09:40:41.710-07:00Well, there is photo artistry and there is photo p...Well, there is photo artistry and there is photo photographs, at the opposite end of the scale. And the two blend into each other. And the camera cannot will not see what the eye sees, nor the intent of the photographer. Also, camera technology is just not good enough to reproduce faithfully the intent of the photographer. The keen observer will sort out the photos that are true to their purposefulness, and time will trash the rest…trygkrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11427824129981455967noreply@blogger.com